Heritage of Healing
This podcast episode delves into the traditional practice of curanderismo, focusing on the relationship between an apprentice and her master healer, La Maestra Michelle. Michelle explains the various types of curanderos and their specialties, which include massage, midwifery, herbalism, and spiritual healing. The episode also discusses the interchangeable use of terms like curandera, shaman, and medicine person, as well as the cultural roots and misconceptions surrounding these practices.
Listeners are cautioned that the podcast is for entertainment and not medical advice. The episode highlights the importance of lineage and the apprenticeship process in becoming a curandera, emphasizing the long-term dedication required to master the healing arts.
Heritage of Healing
Confronting Dark Entities
Unlock the secrets of protecting your well-being from dark energies in our latest episode. How can negative thoughts and emotions manifest into forces that significantly impact your life amidst today's global uncertainties?
We venture into the fascinating, and terrifying, realms of dark energies and possessions, offering insights into how these elements influence our physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual health. Explore the duality of heavenly and hellish realms, their unique frequencies, and their impact on our existence.
We'll navigate the thin line between being surrounded by these energies and being possessed, shedding light on how some mental health issues might be misunderstood as such. Through compelling personal experiences and teachings, we aim to empower you with the knowledge and tools to recognize and shield yourself from these influences.
Join us as we reconnect with our higher selves, emphasizing the significance of mental clarity in warding off negative energies, especially during challenging times. We unravel the reality of exorcisms beyond their dramatic movie portrayals and share practical advice on safeguarding yourself and your loved ones through spiritual practices, rituals, and protective items like stones and essential oils.
Learn to harness the radiant power of your heart and acknowledge the guidance available within our vast realm. As life's challenges arise, remember that your inner light remains a beacon of hope and resilience. Tune in and embark on a journey towards personal empowerment and resilience, with insights that promise to transform your perspective on the unseen forces at play in our world.
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If you study manifestation, you may have come across the concept which centers on the premise that you create your own reality the good and the bad. But is that true, or are there actual dark energies which we need to guard against? In today's episode, La Maestra explores the concepts of dark energies and even possessions. The current state of the world is complicated. As this show is being recorded, it is an election year. There are some who are celebrating their party's win, thinking that, politically, their savior is about to take office once again. Others are in despair, fearing that the basic human rights for all marginalized groups are being jeopardized. And globally, the world is watching the United States with a variety of opinions. While this show is not taking a political stance, as curanderas, Michelle and I are concerned with the spiritual state of all global citizens, there are many who feel that there is a darkness taking root around us. In today's show, we will talk about dark energies, but when we recorded it, we were not thinking of current events. We were still exploring the energies of Halloween and Dia de los Muertos and discussing energetic manifestations. However, since then, many people have come to both of us asking questions about purpose, destiny and safety, as the political environment is changing once again. As such, we are offering our first virtual workshop to the public. We believe there is a need for personal empowerment, cultivating love and looking at the state of things from an ancient and divine perspective. This hour-long workshop will speak to these issues in a non-political way, but is intended to be healing to those who feel despair and fear from any outside force that you may be encountering. This workshop is given in generosity, where we will request a donation for the workshop, but if you cannot or will not pay to participate, we will offer a code so you can access it at no cost. Please follow our Instagram page at Kudandera Podcast for the details.
Speaker 1:Okay, now back to today's show. Maya Angelou, one of my favorite public figures, once wrote light and shadow are opposite sides of the same coin. We can illuminate our paths or darken our way. It is a matter of choice. The choice should be simple, but the application of the concept doesn't always feel so simple. So I asked Michelle can you explain what dark energy is? So I asked Michelle can you explain?
Speaker 2:what dark energy is. You could say on a basic level, dark energies could be dark thoughts, negative thoughts, anger, envy, maliciousness. Energy is energy and we imprint energy with our thoughts, through ritual, through our intentions, and that energetic charge can impact us as an individual. And so if somebody has some very negative thoughts towards you, that energy can come at you and it can manifest in physical ways, emotional ways, mental ways, spiritual ways, and it can manifest in bad luck, different things like that. So we have the negative energies and we also have negative entities or dark entities.
Speaker 2:When you think about, the earth is the highest level of a hell realm and the lowest level of a heavenly realm. So we have that duality of heavenly ways and hellish ways. Think about it in that sense, going back and forth through life, and when you think about that, then you recognize that, okay, if there's heavenly realms, heavenly realms, how many heavenly realms are there, how many hellish realms are there? And, depending on the culture that you come from, depends on how you see those levels in the ways that I was taught, there's 13 additional heavenly realms and 13 hellish realms, and then there's the earth realm, and so in the bible you can say that the bible talks about the many houses of heaven, the many mansions of heaven, and so there's many levels and those are all also frequencies and within those frequencies are different types of beings.
Speaker 2:So when you think about a heavenly realm having angels, we hear about the angels and my guardian angel, and the angels are here and I've called upon the angels, I called upon, uh, the archangels to come. Those are beings, those are entities, those are deities right, there's deities. And then in the lower realms, you hear about dark angels. And what is that darkness? Those are lower frequencies and those are different ways of operating.
Speaker 2:So a lower frequency would be fear and war and bloodletting and darkness and scary stuff, horror stuff, and the heavenly realms would be, of course, things that are tied to love and light and compassion and empathy and beauty and manifestation and deliciousness and all of that. And so those types of beings are real and sometimes they interface on this earth realm and people, also in the dream time, can journey into some of these realms and ones can attach to them and take a hold of them.
Speaker 1:As Michelle and I were discussing these different types of beings, I became curious Is there a difference between being surrounded by different energies, like dark energies, and being possessed?
Speaker 2:There is a difference. When an entity attaches or latches onto you or enters into you, you become possessed possessed that word, possession is a real thing and there's symptoms, if you will, of when you have been possessed by an entity. A lot of times people with mental illness are diagnosed, but they're actually attachments, they're possessions that have been put on them. I'm not dismissing mental illness or those disciplines in any capacity, but there's a much greater understanding to it. And so when an entity latches onto you, sometimes you are unconscious of why these behaviors or these attitudes or these lower frequencies, negativities, are taking a hold. You often hear of people who have a mental illness and they say the devil told me to do it or something else is telling me to do these bad things, and some of that can be like a split off part of a personality because of a trauma that a person has experienced, but a lot of times it's actually entities. I'll tell you a story of something that happened to me, and this was many years ago. I was in my car, I was going from Santa Fe to Albuquerque and I was with my husband at the time. He and I were driving down the road and I was looking out the window and as I was looking out the window, I saw this woman in a car next to us and I literally saw an entity attached to her and it looked like a. It looked like a spooky, like out of a horror movie. It was a spooky entity. It was dark, it looked demonic, it looked really scary. And so we were going down the road and we passed her and I saw this and I told my husband at the time pull over. And he's like what. And I said just pull over. He's like what's going on. And I go that woman's going to pull off on the side of the road. And so he pulled over. Sure enough, that woman pulled off on the side of the road. I got out of the car and I ran back to her and she just looked at me, rolled down the window and she was crying, she was like hysterical. And I said are you okay? And she said no, I'm not okay, I'm not okay. And I said what's wrong? And she said I found out that'm not okay, I'm not okay. And I said what's wrong? And she said oh, I found out that my husband was cheating on me. She had a little girl in the car with her. I found out that my husband was cheating on me and I just want to kill myself. I'm going to drive myself off a cliff and I'm going to kill myself. And so I took her hands and I prayed with her. I just prayed. I prayed with her and I prayed with her and I took my cell phone. I called her sister, the woman's sister, and I waited there until the sister showed up.
Speaker 2:And then later I began to realize whenever suicide, whenever murder and death happens in heinous ways, other entities are around and they're definitely attached to people. They're definitely attached. So if you look in wartime situations, there's definitely a lot of dark entities bloodletting in those situations and it's very complicated and that's a long story. But those entities latch on when we dream and we go into the lower astral world and people have these dreams about some evil thing attacking them. That is for real. That's not psychology, that is for real. And those entities are for real.
Speaker 1:As Michelle was speaking about possessions and these entities, I thought it was important to ask her what can we do if we're confident that some kind of entity or darkness has attached to us? Is there any way that we as individuals can take steps to just get that thing off?
Speaker 2:So our word is a sacred tool. Our word is a manifester. It's a tool that is given to us by the creator to create and to manifest, and so the command of our word is a very powerful thing that we have. Our word is a very powerful thing that we have. So when an energy or a person or an entity comes and attaches to us or comes in our dream time, we command them to be gone. We command it with all of our force. You can shout it, you can say it. I believe that speaking it out loud into the ethers, into the universe, is a very powerful way, and that's the way I like to do it. And so, when something comes in and you feel like there is something here, you cannot grant it permission, you cannot accept it and just let it be a status quo. You have to command it out, and so the word is one way. The other way, in terms of like curanderismo, is you can use fire. We have the technology of using the light fire, limpia, which is a cleanse that you can do. Where you have a small pan, a very small pan, you only use it for this reason, and you put sea salt or Epsom salt on the bottom. You put a little bit of rubbing alcohol where the salt becomes like a paste, and then you put an intention over it this entity must be gone, and you can pray also, and then you light it on fire. You are going to have a flame. So more alcohol that is inside this pan, the higher the flame. So you got to watch what you're doing, safety first. And you do the white fire limpia. You can add sage in it and smoke it. So that's one way. Another way that is a very powerful way to get rid of entities and that level of negativity is to use coffee grains. And so you can have your pot for smoking, like as how you say, and you can put a little bit of sea salt in that pot. You put a charcoal patty and then on top of that charcoal patty you put coffee grounds and those obviously have to be clean and not use coffee grounds and you put it on there and you can put a bowl in every single room or on yourself with the sheet over you to cleanse that entity off. The coffee is a very strong smoke that will clear it off, and so too is the white fire limpia.
Speaker 2:You can use water, holy water, to. You can have the holy water. You can bless the water yourself with the blood of Christ or the light of God or the love of the universe. However you do it and you place that water, you can either pour it on yourself or bless yourself or your child or whomever it is that has that negative entity attached to them. You bless and you do the sign of the cross and the cross is also not just a Catholic sign, but it's a sign of the four directions, which has many different elements and qualities attached to that cross and so you can bless and ask that the powers that you're calling for bless and cleanse whomever it is your home, yourself, a body, a person, whatever that entity is on. Seed that on the spiritual level. I say that to everybody. It's like seed it there on the spiritual level, because that which is above comes below, and so that is going to have an impact energetically and it's going to change things on the physical level.
Speaker 1:For those of us that are still on the journey of reconnecting to our higher selves, it might be troublesome to think about how these energies and entities might be interfacing or even connecting with us. So I asked Michelle what could we be doing that would allow these troublesome elements access to us in the first place, if you're talking about just negative energies within ourselves, we're made with those ingredients, right?
Speaker 2:All of us on this earth realm have all of those ingredients, and so I think it's an internal check. When you're talking about just our emotions and our thoughts, our own ordinary emotions and our thoughts, we have to come back into the clarity of our own minds. We have to come into the place of self-mastery, the place of thinking about our own thoughts, not blaming anybody else coming, thinking about our own thoughts, not blaming anybody else. Coming back into our own thoughts Now, when a person has experienced trauma and we're going through a hardship of some sort maybe a breakup of a marriage, or maybe a death or a loss, or somebody has been extremely abusive to us- or somebody has stolen from us or something in which we know it's painful and we've been wronged those things we also have to come back to a point in which we say I'm no longer allowing them to have space inside of me.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to let that abuse or that abuser hold rent in my mind. I'm not going to do that Because, you see, the mind, again, is a sacred tool. Our thoughts and our words are a sacred tool. So we have to catch ourselves. It's not always easy, and so that's the part of ourselves within ourselves. Now, when we're really angry and we're really hateful and we're drinking or we're whoring or we're drugging or whatever we're doing, we're opening up other portals and with that we're inviting other things in. And so in that part, when you're talking about other energies or entities or possessions, you have to have them exercised.
Speaker 1:That's what an exorcism is. You have to have them removed out. Now I don't know about you, but I personally don't have any experience with exorcism aside from what I've seen in the movies. So, la Maestra, what is a real life exorcism like? Does it reflect the movies at all, or is it a different story altogether? It can be like in the movies.
Speaker 2:That's terrifying. It can be like that the entities can be fighting to remain inside the person. And, yeah, it can be like that, like exactly what you just said, like in the movies. It can be also something much more subtle. When those energies and entities come out, we have the opportunity to encapsulate them and move them on their way, and so, yeah, it can be varied and it depends on what is inside them, where it came from. I've done many, many exorcisms. I've done some with young children who've been possessed for different reasons. A trauma happens and the entity attaches to them, and so I've done those removals. Sometimes you can remove the energies and the entities, like I said earlier, with a command. Other times it takes a little bit more expertise.
Speaker 1:So what are the basic kind of protections that we can be doing for ourselves and our loved ones to prevent and deter the dark energies?
Speaker 2:I think we have to become more connected to the light, more connected to our love, more connected spiritually to the light, more connected to our love, more connected spiritually. And so, as you do that, if you have your spiritual practice in the morning and at night and you're invoking your holy ones for protection and you're doing particular rituals where, let's say, you place salt around the windows or crucifix, or you use waters or a limpia of some sort, or a huevo, an egg, flowers, and you begin to do these spiritual hygiene, these spiritual aspects within yourself and in your practice, and then in your home and your office, particularly and most importantly for your bodies, for your energies and for the people that you love, for the people that live within your home, or your children, your grandchildren, that type of thing so you do need to do your protections. I like to look at it and say you're doing a prayer you can do. Meditation is very critical in the development of your field and heightening the frequency of your field. Visualizations, which are amazing and they don't take very long.
Speaker 2:You could do it in the shower, using your tools, like your salt or your holy waters or your crucifix or your items that represent protection. Those can be stones like obsidian or black tourmaline, amber, kyanite those types of stones. Place them under your bed, on your pillows, in the corners in a fireplace. I'm not saying you have to put them in all of those places, but you begin to intuit what your home and yourself and your body and your space is needing to create that protection. You can also use essential oils and put them on the power points of your body and your belly button, on your hands, your wrists, your knees and the back of your neck and your shoulder blades and those power points for protection, and call in that protection before you leave your house and before you go to sleep. What do you want?
Speaker 1:people to have in mind after they're listening to this podcast on this topic. That is important but maybe intimidating or scary.
Speaker 2:I think it's to recognize that we live in a realm that is so vast that we don't completely understand everything and nobody does. Some of us are fortunate enough to have a little bit more knowledge and connected to our ancient ways, but to recognize like there's so much more than what meets the eye and we can tap into the place inside of ourselves, that heart radiance, that really is a guide and it's a beautiful thing that we have. That is ours and it's ours unto ourselves. It's untainted by life, and so if you feel, if you're a person out there and you feel the bad luck has just haunted you or people's BS has just really hurt your heart or your mind, I challenge one to tap back in to who, what they are, and to remember that and to cultivate it, because that's your beauty and it's yours to express and experience all your life and to live a happy life, to be happy, maybe transform this realm from heaven and hell into heaven. Maybe do that.
Speaker 1:That is all for this week's episode. Again, please be sure to follow us on instagram at kurandera podcast, to stay in touch with me and michelle and to find more information about our upcoming virtual seminars. That's kurandera podcast on instagram. My name is liz. I am the apprentice to the master healer, michelle. Until next week, bye-bye.