Healing Miracles: Victoria's Triumph Over Cancer, Part: 1

Overcoming Stage Four Cancer: Victoria's Miraculous Journey

This episode delves into the emotionally stirring and inspiring story of Victoria, a cancer survivor who beat stage four cancer with the help of Michelle, a curandera, her oncology team, and her resilient mindset. The discussion highlights the contrasting views of Western medicine and holistic healing approaches, emphasizing the power of faith, spirituality, and strong support systems in overcoming serious illnesses. Victoria's husband, John, also shares insights about his role and experiences throughout her healing journey. Tune in next week for part two, focusing on Michelle's perspective as a curandera.

00:00 Introduction to Medical Miracles

00:58 Victoria's Healing Journey Begins

02:42 The Diagnosis and Initial Reactions

04:37 Meeting Michelle the Curandera

06:53 The Power of Faith and Positivity

12:22 John's Perspective and Support

18:15 Conclusion and Next Week's Preview

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Transcript

What is a medical miracle? In western medicine, you often hear the term miracle used when people heal outside of a textbook scenario.  In curanderismo, healing is viewed in a more holistic way. It acknowledges that The mind, the body, and the spirit all need support. 

And with this approach, miraculous healing is not so uncommon.  Today, we have part one of a testimonial from one of Michelle's clients. A client who, with the help of Michelle, her oncology team, and her own iron will, Beat stage four cancer.



 Today we're going to take on a pretty real topic and we're going to talk about healing journeys illness and specifically cancer. So this is not fluff. This isn't a light topic. It's very serious.

And these are the types of things that people do come to curanderas like Michelle for. So Victoria, let me just give the mic to you first and foremost. Would you like to introduce yourself in your own words and tell us about what your healing and your cancer journey has been like? Yes, of course. 

My name is Victoria and thank you so much for having me here.

It is an honor, a pleasure for me to speak about my journey because I know it could help so many people out there  that when they're first diagnosed with cancer, it is terrifying and  what's going to pull you through is your faith.  And your mindset  now, just a little before we're not, once I was diagnosed with cancer, I know that there was more out there that it wasn't, this was not my final destination, that cancer was not going to take me out. 

I just didn't know how was I going to get there now? My grandmother, she was a healer. And where she was at, there was not much of doctors. People didn't go see doctors. People will go to see her.  Unfortunately, when I was diagnosed, my grandmother had been gone for 30 years, but I was like, if she was here, she would have the answers for me. 

So  we asked our stepson, do you know anyone here in New Mexico that. Is a curandera, that's a healer and she's he's let me ask my friend. There is someone in Santa Fe and before I was I started my treatments before anything. I went to see Michelle.  And the first thing that Michelle told me was, you're not going to die from this.

Wow. But the doctor had told me I was. The doctor had told me, you are going to die. It is bad. 

Let's start there. So you'd been to a doctor and you just, you, were you sick? Were you feeling sick before and then went in for a checkup? Or how did that happen? 

No, there was no symptoms. There was no symptoms.

I just, Okay. One day, I woke up with pain in my stomach, very bad pain, and I thought it was my gallbladder.  So we went to treat, according to me, my gallbladder.  To my surprise, when they did the CT scan, what they found was that there was, my gallbladder was perfectly healthy,  but there was something in my liver. 

And  from that moment, they admitted me in the hospital. They ran all kinds of tests.  When it became a reality was when they told me we need to call the oncology team in  and that's when I was like, This is real. This is happening. But I said it was real because they were calling the team, but in reality, in my heart, in my soul, I wasn't accepting that.

Okay, they called the oncology team and I thought that they were gonna say, Okay, you have this and we could treat it like this, but when they told me it's stage four and you will die from this.  To me at that moment, it was like, no, this can't be, I have so much to do. I know that I have a purpose. 

And  I was smiling at the doctor to the point that he thought you're not understanding me. I think you don't get it. And I was like, no, I do get what you're saying. I just don't believe you.  And I knew that he could say whatever he wanted to say, but my faith.  was going to save me.  And I knew that there was someone out there that was gonna tell me, you're right.

You are, you're going to be healed. You're not going to die from this. I just needed to hear it from someone else because sometimes we doubt ourselves. Sometimes we're like, although I was very confident in that bed when he was telling me you're going to die, I'm not going to die. I needed to hear from someone else.

And that's when Michelle came in. And that was the first thing that she told me when she was sitting in her healing room. And she said, You are not going to die from this. It's not your destiny. And it was those words that took me through the whole  year and a half of treatments and surgeries.

And every time they were like, all this shrunk, all this disappeared. I was like, she was so right. 

She's so on one hand, you have this conventional voice of like medicine that's like saying,  Good luck. And then you have the spiritual, our mystical healer who's no, and then you, who made a decision to just say, yeah, this isn't it for me.

What did it look like when you went to go talk to Akudandhara when you went to go talk to Michelle? Did she, you don't have to tell anything too personal, but what was that experience like? How long were you there? What was the process? 

It was like going home. It was like going to my roots  to that.

I had to be there. It was like in my destiny to be sitting there in front of her. And for her to tell me, I felt the minute I walked into her healing room, there was like this vibe, this energy that I could feel. Feel vividly and I was like, Oh, there is, this is a real thing here and and it felt like I have known her all my life.

We both felt that way. My husband and I, 



She just, and from that moment I was like, Oh, I'm never leaving her side. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. 

 And this is how it's funny how things work because we had no intentions on moving to New Mexico.

I'm from New Jersey, see my accent, and we after 911 I was working by the twin towers. And after that, I was just like, Oh, I can't work in New York. I don't want to be in New Jersey no more. So I moved to Florida and I was in Florida for about 18 years, 19 years.  And while we got married, he's I want to go to New Mexico.

He loves New Mexico. I want to go to New Mexico. And I kept on telling him no. And then in 2020, he's let's go to New Mexico. And I said, let's go to New Mexico.  And people would ask me, like, why did you choose New Mexico? What's going on in New Mexico? And I said, I feel like I'm in a waiting room.

Something is going to happen. And I need to be here for whatever's coming. It's here. Wow. And  it was the diagnosed of that.  Cancer, which I'm going to refer to as illness because I don't like giving the word cancer any power because to me cancer is like an entity and if you fear it, that fear is going to feed it and it's going to get bigger where I want cancer to fear me to be like, Oh, I got into the wrong body.

This girl is not going to allow this to take her out. I will die and the good thing is being recorded. I will die of anything else, but I'm not going to die of cancer. 

Words have power. Yes. Talk to us about what your initial interaction with the Michelle was it praying?

Was it, did you have you jump up and down on one leg? People have all these ideas about what working with a curandera is like. 

I felt like she 

was, I felt like she was doing a cold reading. Like she was just looking into my soul of what was going to happen. And that reassurance before I saw her, I had a dream with a bear, a white bear that took me into the woods.

And I didn't understand what the message of the bear was. And then she explained to me, okay, the bear is medicine.  So it was like a message from the bear that I was going to go through all this. But at the end, I was going to be healed. She did do a cleanse, we did a cleanse, you smoked us,  but it was just, it was more of that reassurance that she gave me.

She empowered me. That makes any sense. Like she, like there was something in me that she said you could do this. And if that's exactly what I needed, I believe  that she was meant to be part of my journey. Has she not been there? Maybe I would have been like at the beginning. I would have been yeah telling the doctor I'm gonna make it through but when you go through all those treatments when you go into these places and you feel the energy of These other patients  it could bring you down, you know It could bring your energy down and that's where Michelle came in and Michelle was like no Not your story.

  And it's been almost three years now, wow. And here I 

am. Wow. So what did you do to sustain that energetic peace and positivity and healing  throughout your process? Like, how did you hold it and keep it? 

Her words, for one. And staying positive. And I would do Everything, I would text her a lot.

Oh my God, texting like every time I feel this. And she would just tell me things what to do. And I would just follow through. And that was just like, lift me up. And it's okay, I could do it's like putting the armor of God.  

That's amazing. 

And the prayers and Michael, the Archangel, that was one that was you did mention Michael, the Archangel.

And when I first went there,  Padre Pio our Holy Mother,  so we worked with them.  

 What have you learned from your journey? What are you? You're,  thank God you're well, you're glowing, you're smiling, you're talking about it. So what are some of the things that you learned?

That  a curandera  is just as good as a doctor. No, it's better than a doctor. Better than a doctor. Because she could heal you in many ways.  With her hands, with her words, with her knowledge. And I skipped this part because like I said, it was a process of treatments. And then surgery. And right before I went for my surgery, she did this beautiful ceremony.

It was like a Reiki, like a Reiki session, but I know it wasn't a Reiki. But I, to me, that's the closest I could say it was like a Reiki. And when  They went in, the doctor told me at the end of the surgery, he's like, where that tumor was, it was completely dead. It was completely calcified.

Wow. No one wants to have that, but if there's a place where you're going to have the disease or you're going to have a tumor, you had it in the best spot because it was easy to access, cut that part of the liver and have a cure. 

Wow. 

And when they removed the nodules from my lungs, the doctor told me the same, different doctor.

This is the liver doctor. And then the one that did the lungs and the lung the nodules in the lungs. She said to me, if there's any place where you want to have these lungs the nodules, it's exactly where you have them because I have so much easy access. It's in the outside. So it's almost wow, God, 

Oh, that is so powerful. What's something that you would want to tell someone who is, It's  going through a I'll use the word.

Okay. Going through a cancer experience what's something that you would want them to know from you? 

They, I would tell them, your attitude has to change. Don't If the doctor tells you it's the end, don't believe it because  don't believe it. If you're, if your relationship with God or with your faith is not strong, you need to make that really, you have to turn into faith and make that faith strong because that's what's going to keep you alive because there is power in.

Our faith, there is power in number one, God, because with, I would tell God without God,  we're nothing. But when we hold, I held onto his hand and I never let it go. And that's what I would tell someone that's just diagnosed, whether it's type one stage one, stage two, stage three, stage four. It's not a death sentence.

Stay positive, fight it, say, you know what? I'm not accepting it. It doesn't belong to me. Even if you have it, you just say, I don't have it.  

 You have your husband behind you who was a part of this journey as well. John, would you like to introduce yourself? 

Is John Pierce. My wife, Victoria her journey.  Our journey together because it's together, spouses, one, one for all for one.



So  when I first found out  when the doctor came in and told us it wasn't dreaded, I felt it was anger. It was anger because. Who the heck was the doctor to tell my wife this and the way he told her  I mean so cold and everything and He asked do you want to know how long you have  and me being curious She didn't want to know she was like, nope You can't tell me only God can tell me being curious.

I chased the doctor down and he tells me six months six to nine months.  So knowing that I just wanted to know the scientific because I knew that God had the final say in our journey together, it's been hard,  but with Michelle by our side, it's been also beautiful learning experience.  I feel my job as the spouse is to hold her space, let her be who she wants to be, let her do what she needs to get through this.

But to always make sure she has a positive outlook.  

What was a struggle for you as you were holding the space, right? Because it's a beautiful sentiment and it's so strong and so powerful, but there are also times when that can be hard. What did you find was challenging during those times?

My personal struggle for me was.  Watching after the treatments watching that after the treatments and knowing that I was powerless to do anything, oftentimes they say it's harder to be the one on the outside looking in. And at that moment, I found that to be true because I couldn't do anything to bring her comfort except to pray, except to hold that space and tell her everything's going to be okay.

 Be able to take her to see Michelle. Because that's what she needed. That's what she wanted at that moment.  And I'm just here to give her what she needs. She's helped me in the past and, that was,  she helped me in the past. So I felt it was my right, my, my pleasure to do that for her.

Never did I feel like it was a necessity that I had to do this or I'd be in trouble or anything. This I desired it.  

I 

wanted to help my wife through this and to see her come up the other end. 



You guys are an awesome couple, but yeah.  I have a four year old, so we're always doing little science experiments, right? And so I was showing him like an analogy of an orange that had gone bad and the one right next to it had gone bad too, right? And being close to something that doesn't serve you can impact you, but being close to something that does serve you has that same, positive impact.

And I think what you guys are showing is just that positivity, like both of you are holding that and Michelle was holding both of you. And so I think that's just so important and so beautiful. John, you have. You were familiar with curanderismo in some way, shape or form or healing, right? Can you talk a little bit about that?

My first experience, my real first experience that I can remember was back with my son. He had what they call mal de ojo where, you know, someone looked at him accidentally or something like that.  He just burst out crying. So the came over and took an egg, just any egg. Got the refrigerator,  the blessed him, cracked the egg, and then it was red, so she popped the eye and his fever broke.

He kept crying and that was just amazing. And ever since that, I've been in love with the ra, the Native American medicine man  'cause.  That's really, to me, that's what medicine is. Yeah, Western medicine has its spot, but not  a spiritual thing. And without that spiritual healing or nothing.

Because we are spiritual, we're spiritual creatures. We have,  we're always in commune with God and being in commune with God meetings. That means that we're communing with everything that is God, and Michelle here is just, like I said, she's a blessing. She has brought us through so much.

There's an interesting kind of yin and yang with the two of you also because as much you have, your alignment is so strong John and Victoria, but then to also hear, the boundary that I think you intelligently set Victoria to say I don't want to hear what the doctor has to say.

Cause you had to keep yourself really in that space. space, but you were like, no. And then John, you're like what is it that you have to say? And by you having that actual number, right? Six to nine months, then what you guys said, it's over three years later, that here we are.

And what a beautiful way to have a strong story, right? Because you had that information and because you didn't write it, it really worked together so amazingly. So that's so powerful. So John, what would you. Want to offer to someone who's supporting a loved one that's going through a major healing journey.

I would want to offer first be there solidly, don't be there halfway. Cause if you're there halfway, that other person will be able to tell it's heart, mind, and soul. Especially if you're married, hold your spouse. Keep that space for your spouse.

Don't let anybody get in that way. Don't let anybody get in between because the world will beat you down. That's they've, it'll just the darkness and everything around you  will beat you down and you have to stay positive. You have to stay positive for that person.  

John is amazing. And there's nothing that he could say that would how he was there for me that describes how he was there for me. I had my parents that wanted to come my siblings. They actually did come and I was like, No, you could go home now.

But it was John, I didn't need anything he anyone else. 

Tune in next week for the second half of this interview where Michelle speaks to her role as a curandera in this miraculous story.  As always, we ask that you consider sharing this episode with anyone who you think might enjoy it or may gain some inspiration from it.

Thank you for being here. Until next week, blessings to you.